How ’07 ABC Interview Tilted a Torture Debate by Brian Stelter.
I encourage y'all to read the whole thing. There are some gems in this one, but here are some of my personal favs:
Mr. Zubaydah started to cooperate after being waterboarded for “probably 30, 35 seconds,” Mr. Kiriakou told the ABC reporter Brian Ross. “From that day on he answered every question.”
His claims — unverified at the time, but repeated by dozens of broadcasts, blogs and newspapers — have been sharply contradicted by a newly declassified Justice Department memo that said waterboarding had been used on Mr. Zubaydah “at least 83 times.”
How's this for indepth research & reporting:
“It didn’t even occur to me that they’d keep doing” the waterboarding, Mr. Ross said last week. “It doesn’t make any sense to me.”
“Kiriakou stepped up and helped shine some light on what has happening,” Mr. Ross said. “It wasn’t the huge spotlight that was needed, but it was some light.”
Jonah Goldberg was referenced a couple of times in the article:
He added: “Debating whether it was worth it still seems open to debate, depending on the facts.”
Of course, since we can't get the facts straight, the debate will be an exercise in futility. It remains unclear how many times Mr. Zubaydah was waterboarded. The declassified Justice Dept. report says "at least 83 times."
The NYT article about the Justice Department Report tells us that:
Mr. Hayden said he had opposed the release of the memos, even though President Obama has said the techniques will never be used again, because they would tell Al Qaeda “the outer limits that any American would ever go in terms of interrogating an Al Qaeda terrorist.”
He also disputed an article in The New York Times on Saturday that said Abu Zubaydah had revealed nothing new after being waterboarded, saying that he believed that after unspecified “techniques” were used, Abu Zubaydah revealed information that led to the capture of another terrorist suspect, Ramzi Binalshibh.
The Times article, based on information from former intelligence officers who spoke on condition of anonymity, said Abu Zubaydah had revealed a great deal of information before harsh methods were used and after his captors stripped him of clothes, kept him in a cold cell and kept him awake at night. The article said interrogators at the secret prison in Thailand believed he had given up all the information he had, but officials at headquarters ordered them to use waterboarding.
He revealed no new information after being waterboarded, the article said, a conclusion that appears to be supported by a footnote to a 2005 Justice Department memo saying the use of the harshest methods appeared to have been “unnecessary” in his case.
Well, it seems that Hollywood has it backwards. The Jack Bauer's in the "field" are getting the info, and the suits in the office are telling them to use torture to find out about the "dirty nuke" planted in some major city. (insert fearful scream here)
Whoever said, "I see the enemy, and he is us." was right. We seem to have become the very thing our ancestors fought to get away from. Or at least some of us have become the enemy.